Q-085: BUGATTI BLUE
Well, this question had to appear sooner or later, didn't it?
I know it has been debated in length and bredth, still is, and most
likely forever will, so why should we not do so here too?
Don Fogle is the man who introduces it to this newsletter; he asks if
I - or anyone else - can show him "a Pantone Matching System color
that matches Bugatti Blue".
Well, the only actual Bugatti Blue colour code I have is the one used
on the 100P aeroplane. A paint for it was developed by Dupont, and
their code for it was - and actually still is! - "S55959-UM", and the
name is, of course, "Bugatti Aircraft Blue".
A manufacturer of a scale model of the aeroplane recommended Humbrol
#25 Blue as closest to this. Pim Faber recommends (in MBA Journal
v5#2) to mix Humbrol #25 Blue (gloss) with #14 Blue (matte) in equal
proportions.
When it comes to the colours of the racing cars, there really isn't
any one Bugatti Blue, as this colour evolved over time.
It started out quite light, or pale - on photos of the first Type 35s
at Lyon in 1924, the cars look almost white - while it became darker,
and more purple, with time, to end up like something like what all
the Bugatti racers in the Schlumpf collection has.
I have heard or read someplace that Mrs. Bugatti was in charge of the
Bugatti Blue colour, and also that she used the blue of the packets
of the famous French cigarettes Galoise as original.
Then one might think, great, so I buy a packet of the sigarettes to
check with, but it isn't too far-fetch to assume that this colour has
also changed with time.
A short sum-up: What Bugatti Blue is, is really different depending
on what period of time we are talking about.
I'd be delighted to post any colour codes that describe various
Bugatti Blues here in this newsletter. Original codes, as well as
modern approximations or equivalents.
Or any other reflections on this matter.
#037 (8/3-1998):
Willie Mearns writes:
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I can't add much to the debate over precisely which shade of blue was
used, other than give a source for the story about Mme. Bugatti
testing the paintwork against a packet of Gauloises... It's from
Roland Bugatti, and quoted on pp. 192-193 of Griffith Borgeson's
"Bugatti by Borgeson - The Dynamics of Mythology"
---:unquote-----
Chapter II and IV of this book is, with additional illustrations,
published in Automobile Quarterly, v19 #4. -Ed.
#038 (22/3-1998):
Frequent correspondent John Rudd writes:
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In the BOC Spare Part Book for 1982 is an entry labelled C17. It
says:
"Official BOC colour card covering Bugatti blue, British Standard
Reference 107 Strong Blue. Invaluable for achieving the correct blue
paint shade. Quotes international Maunsell colour reference".
I assume this is still available from the BOC.
In The Bugatti Book by Eaglesfield and Hampton there appears the text
of a magazine description of the first Type 35s. In part, it says:
"When it first appeared for the race at Lyons (1924) the little
horizon-blue car captured the imagination instantly."
Unfortunately, the article is not attributed, but it may have been
written by Bradley who was at the race.
But whoever wrote the article, there is a heck of a difference between
"horizon blue" and British Standard Strong Blue.
Photographs of early Type 35s generally show them to be pale-coloured,
though a car photographed in 1925 with one of the Italian drivers
obviously is darker - maybe it was red.
But most of the cars at Schlumpf and most of the cars one sees
elsewhere are darker blue, often with a purplish tinge.
It is notable too that pictures of the tank car show it as darker
than the Lyons cars which appeared later.
So perhaps the Lyons cars were an aberration and Bugatti blue is the
darker version.
Does Bugatti blue equate with French racing blue? Or is French racing
blue the paler colour? Were the Lyons cars painted French racing blue,
and other Bugattis painted Bugatti Blue?
The cigarette pack story told in the Borgeson book is believable
enough, but as a matter of personal preference I like the lighter
colour. For that reason the chassis of my Grand Sport Amilcar is
painted that way. Original Amilcar literature describes one of the
available colours as "bleu clair" which my French/English dictionary
tells me means light or pale blue.
If it was good enough for the first Type 35s, then it's good enough
for me! And because I don't own a Bugatti, I don't really have to
worry too deeply about the right shade of paint!
So there we are - a few ideas; a little more confusion.
---unquote:------
I checked the current, 1997, "Bugatti Replacement Parts Catalogue"
from BOC, and now entry C17 (page 14) reads:
"Official B.O.C. Color Card. British Standard Reference 107 strong
blue. Quotes International Maunsell colour reference. BS2660
Extracted from BS381C 1964."
#039 (24/4-1998):
David Woodhouse writes:
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It is my impression that the shade varied. There is no "official" French
Blue any more than there is a particular British Racing Green or Italian
Red.
I'm inclined to go along with the cigarette package theory for the
middle years Bugattis but the real story may well be as simple as
whatever blue paint was handy at the time. Certainly this is true of the
Italian and British cars as Ferraris ranged from a deep maroon to near
orange and BRM from light apple green to almost black.
Photos from the era of Bugatti works racing teams show the early cars to
be quite light, appearing nearly white in the black and white prints.
Around 1930 the team cars are noticeably darker, probably the color that
most Bugatti GP cars are painted today. The T59s seem darker still.
Until convincing evidence to the contrary surfaces, I feel that there is
no single shade of "Bugatti Blue" (or French Racing Blue, for that
matter).
---:unquote---
From a correspondent, whose anonymity will be preserved, I have
received a letter, which I take the liberty of forwarding a quote from
here:
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"Photographs of early T35's" are usually in Black and White so you can't
tell whether they are light or medium anything. Schlumpf was a real
cheapskate and painted all of his cars out of the same identical dark
blue can and compounded the crime by using silver paint on many bright
parts. Schlumpf Blue is just that - Schlumpf Blue.
The Gauloise cigarette story is probably as good as any which can be
found whether it is true or not. At least it makes some sense.
Especially when one realizes that although his design of the GP body was
brilliant, EB was not so interested in the fabrication of the bodies.
Much of this work was left to apprentices and perhaps the painting as
well? Thus, I contend that in early times, the cars were painted in
different batches resulting in (perhaps only slightly) different shades
of blue. Over the years, the original paint faded or was overpainted so
that cars began to look differently and these differences were in turn
"interpreted" by later owners when having their cars repainted.
There are many other such details (color of rubber windshield apron -
black or red, safety wires for the body screws - copper or white bronze
etc etc) which keep Bugatti nuts arguing into the wee hours. It's fun
which is why we do it. But is there a single REAL answer? I doubt it.
I defy anyone to go to a Bugatti event in modern times and find two cars
painted the same blue. Everyone has a different idea. Thank God.
What is British Racing Green (BRG)? Again, go to a Bentley Drivers Club
meet and see all the different shades of BRG. It's the same situation.
---:unquote---
Well, maybe we should all agree now that: Bugatti blue is ... blue.
Or wont I escape that easily?
#041 (5/6-1998):
Marco Bertazzoni writes:
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As I know there never existed a proper Bugatti blue. The blue color got
in the years darker and darker. The early Lyon cars had after the common
opinions a verry light blue like the Gauloises cigarette boxes, and in
the following years up to T 59 they got verry dark. Interesting is, that
the T 59 G cars had a twotone paint of light and dark blue.
As I restored my car (a Type 51 -Ed.) I found 3 different blue tones
plus some red paint rests. The blue colors went from a light baby blue,
over a blue like you can find on a Renault 8 Gordini to a nearly night
blue.
I decided to paint my car in the color the Schlumpf cars have. Because
after Mr. Garnier, the director of the Muse National at Mulhouse, Fritz
Schlumpf took the color that the Bugatti factory used in the post-war
time. It is RAL 5119.
---:unquote---
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